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Friday, February 5, 2021

Chaney vs. Green: Republican Leadership is, at the Best of Times, A Leaky Vessel

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Over the last few days there’s been a lot of fury in the Congress over the actions of some of it's members. First we had many Republicans who were outraged at Rep. Liz Cheney for voting in support of impeaching former President Trump, a clearly unconstitutional action.  

The Congress has no authority to try anyone for anything, especially a former sitting President of the United States.  The Congress can only remove him from office.  If a former POTUS has committed a crime during his time in office or after, that is the responsibility of the executive branch. 

If ever there was a posted child for political nepotism, it's Liz Chaney.  Her family spent their lives in Washington, she has to know the Congress has no Constitution authority here, how can she not know it? Yet she jumps up and declares something we know to be absolutely untrue: 

“The president of the United States summoned this mob, assembled this mob, and lit the flame of this attack,” Cheney said in a statement. “Everything that followed was his doing. None of this would have happened without the president. The president could have immediately and forcefully intervened to stop the violence. He did not.”She added, “There never has been a greater betrayal by a president of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution.”

That's a flat out lie.  In no way did he encourage violence, and it was clear from the beginning that was untrue to any rational or reasonable person. So, we must, and I repeat, we must, conclude this isn't a matter of conscience.  It's politics!

Kevin McCarthy, Republican leader of the House declared in her defense she was a real conservative.  Really?  On what planet?  As a result of his defense she survived the vote against her, by secret ballot by the way.  The vote was 61 for outing and 145 members for keeping her in the number three position in the Republican House leadership.  A clear demonstration those 145 “unknown to the public” Republicans valued their position in the "swamp" more than they valued their oath of office.  

Kevin McCarthy, who seems to be talking out of both sides of his mouth, can be blamed for encouraging the Republicans to vote against the clear views of their constituents, and the constituents in her state. 

I'll tell you what. We'll come back to this.

"In politics there is no honor" . - Disraeli

Then there's the Democrat uproar over Marjorie Taylor Greene for things she's stated in the past that must be considered unwise at best.   But those were all said before she was elected to Congress, and clearly that's her right.  It's called free speech.  Free speech issues have nothing to do with wisdom.

In America we have the right to hold unpleasant views and state them, no matter how stupid they may be.  No one has to like them, but that's a separate issue.  But she implied violence in her views, including to Nancy Pelosi.  Clearly not very wise, but make no mistake about this:  It's not unique either.  

Politicians, already in office, and in the Congress, especially Democrats, have been over the top with this type of violent hyperbolic rhetoric. 

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Federalist: Schumer Used Violent Rhetoric To Sic A Mob On Supreme Court Justices One year ago "Schumer incited a mob on the steps of the Supreme Court in order to bully justices to rule in Democrats' favor." “I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions,” Schumer threatened the two most recently confirmed justices, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh."

Is anyone demanding he step down from being Majority leader?

 Sen. Kamala Harris solicited funds to bail out the rioters who destroyed Minneapolis during 2020’s “Summer of Rage.” 

Is anyone demanding her impeachment?

"Rep. Maxine Waters called on Democrats to seek out Republicans in public places and “create a crowd” and “push back” on them to let them know “they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”  

Are the Democrats going to punish her? 

"The Bernie Sanders supporter who nearly killed House Republican Whip Steve Scalise at a baseball field in Virginia said he was motivated to kill for “health care” after Sanders and other Democrats had said the Republican health care plan was to kill many Americans. 

Who is demanding he be tried for murder or removed from the Senate?

Sen. Cory Booker told his supporters at one gathering in D.C. to “Please don’t just come here today and then go home. Go to the Hill today. Get up and, please, get up in the face of some congresspeople.”  

And did anyone insist Booker be censured by the Senate?

Are Bernie, Nancy, Chuck, Maxine, Harris, Pressley, or any other Democrat who've been supportive of this kind of rhetoric being ostracized for their inflammatory actions? No, No, No, No, and No!   Nor is there any condemnation for any the other leftist calls for violence against conservatives.

Why?  Because they're leftist, Democrats, and radicals in support of Democrats.  Consistency of thought and morality are alien qualities to the Democrat party.  If that's true, and it is, why is it acceptable for the Democrats to demand the Republicans punish Greene, saying if the Republicans don't do it they will?

And naturally there has to be, as there always is, a logical fallacy thrown in to confuse the issue.  There were claims this created a moral conundrum for the Republicans.  Why.  The claim was if they acted against Chaney and didn't act against Green they were being hypocritical.  Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ve been following this Rep. Green/Rep. Chaney issue from the beginning and other than linking some posts I wasn’t going to weigh in on it but….well….I’m Serbian, and I have some thoughts. 

First of all…..and here it comes…..this whole thing is a logical fallacy. 

Green has said some loony things, and has some loony ideas, but those were all expressed before she was elected to office. Attacking her is an attack on the first amendment. Even if she did express them after being elected, she has rights, and shouldn’t be removed by the Republicans from anything. She violated no laws or rules of the House, and this wouldn't have been a conundrum for them if they had guts, which I will explain later on. 

Since the Democrats did remove her, then they need to be forced to be consistent and remove all the members of “The Squad” from their positions for the outrageous, racist and antisemitic things they’ve said "while in office", including promoting violence against conservatives, whites, Christians, Jews, Republicans and Trump administration personnel, and that would include Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters.

However, in the case of Liz Chaney vs Marjorie Taylor Greene, – here’s the logical fallacy - this has nothing to do with Chaney's right to say and do as she sees fit.  That is an inappropriate comparison.

She had every right to make the decision she did. However, as a party leader, she's supposed to be representing the views of her party.  In point of fact, she has failed her party as it's leader, and the party has every right, and should have, removed her from her leadership position.

Patricia McCarthy in her article, Liz Cheney's and the RINOs' betrayal, states: 

Liz Cheney's statement of support for this nonsensical and unconstitutional second impeachment was truly disgusting.  She certainly knows that President Trump did not "summon the mob, assemble the mob and light the flame."  Her hyperbole is laughable.  It is she who should be removed from her third-in-line position in the House, along with truly anti-American bigots like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.

In an attempt to obfuscate who and what she is you may choose to call her actions a matter of conscience, or whatever you please, but this is not a First Amendment issue with Chaney.  It’s an issue of betrayal and bad performance.   

With regard to the removal of Green and/or Chaney:  Removing one has nothing to do with removing the other.  In Chaney's case it's the same as having a recall election for bad performance in office.  Just because invertebrates like Mitch McConnell have shot their mouths of throwing Green under the bus doesn’t change the logic, or the facts, involving this situation.

The Democrat party leadership is filled with petty, hypocritical, vindictive demagogues who are intellectually and morally flawed people, but unlike the Republicans, they surround and defend their loons like an iron ring.  

The Republican party leadership is, at the best of times, an intellectually and morally flawed leaky vessel, who if they told me day was light and night was dark, I'd have to go outside and check for myself.  They surround their loons with iron pikes and stab them to death. 

This kind of invertebrate thinking and mentality isn't isolated to politics.  This is the real pandemic facing America because it's infected America's leadership.  Whether it's politics, commerce, industry or even trade associations.  And make no mistake about this.........it's far more deadly to our freedoms than any virus.

In defense of Marjorie Taylor Green's views, some anti-semetic:  Andrea Widberg in her article, North Carolina's Lt. Governor shows how to fight back against a corrupt media notes: 

When it comes to Robinson, as with Majorie Taylor Green's ill informed statements about Jews, it's important to recognize that neither she nor Robinson backs his statements with active malevolence.  Unlike the anti-Semitic Democrats in Congress, neither has shown hostility to the Jewish state (so far as I know), and both support American values.

As Sally Zelikovsky said, the answer is to educate, not destroy, those Republicans who need a new understanding of Jews and Judaism.  The fact is that we have almost no fighters in the Republican Party.  We shouldn't jettison the ones we have because they're flawed.  We should, instead, work with them to make them better.

Abraham Lincoln refused to fire U.S. Grant because, "He fights!" Why is that a lesson people keep needing to learn? You may wish to view my article, From an Outraged Citizen to Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina.

But one thing is clear.  The 'Crackdown' Only Begins with Marjorie Taylor Green:

The same "cancel" rhetoric used against the freshman from Georgia has been used against Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, Doug Collins, Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Tom Cotton, and even grandfatherly Mitch McConnell........

Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, Chuck Schumer, and Dick Durbin claim all Republicans are dangerous extremists when it serves their political purpose.....they depicted Paul Ryan murdering an elderly, wheelchair-bound woman to make a political point..... [and it's] not just elected officials who must be purged from society......... high-profile political players openly spoke of "reprogramming" Trump supporters.

They, as well as society as a whole, had better learn to embrace the fight, or go home and let those who understand what is necessary take their place.  

To be or to do.  Which way will you go? - Col. John Boyd

(Editor's Note:  A number of years ago I was invited to belong to an remarkably interesting, eclectic and well educated e-mail group who share information daily, and occasionally with a lot of give and take.  Yesterday one of this group sent an insightful piece to me which I've linked.  The Thirty Tyrants. 

It's a long but must read piece, if you really wish to understand why the elite hate Trump so badly, and why so much of what they say and what they're doing overall seems so insane.  

Lee Smith is the author, and has a lot more to say at his Tablet Magazine site.  It's worth the timeRK)


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