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Friday, December 1, 2023

Up on the High Wire: DeSantis and Newsom Go for Broke

The nation’s two most high-profile governors offer clashing visions in this evening’s unique debate.

If you join the millions expected to tune in to Sean Hannity’s show on Fox News at 9:00 p.m. ET this evening to watch the long-awaited showdown between Govs. DeSantis and Newsom, you will witness what some are calling the shadow presidential debate. Others dismiss what is certain to be a lively and combative affair as mere grandstanding by two politicos with unmistakable ambitions for the ultimate prize – and desperate for attention. And still others view it more benignly as merely a preview of the presidential race – in 2028.

No matter the context, the opportunities for both debaters are enormous – but so are the risks. The two men seek opposite objectives, one clearly, the other through the glass darkly. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) is out to prove he is still relevant in a GOP presidential primary that is clearly slipping away from him, and that he can take on Donald Trump head-to-head, or at least make his differences with the former president more distinct and appealing. The famously clever Gavin Newsom (D-CA), on the other hand, will try to thread a very fine needle, proving his bona fides on the national stage without undermining or threatening the prospects of his own party’s president. Expect him to heap praise on Joe Biden, even as he promotes himself under the guise of defending “blue-state values” – an increasingly hard sell in these days of counter-revolt against wokeness.

DeSantis and Newsom – The Future Is Now

GettyImages-1458864582 (2) Gavin Newsom

Gavin Newsom (Photo by Mario Tama/Getty Images)

This might turn out to be the only national debate between the parties. While Trump or any other GOP presidential hopeful would relish the chance to take the stage opposite Biden, it is almost impossible to envision the enfeebled incumbent agreeing to do so. Trump will in turn use Biden’s refusal as yet another campaign issue that demonstrates Biden’s abject weakness. But while Biden and Trump are about the past and present, DeSantis and Newsom are about the future – for better or worse. Neither is likely to capture the big prize both seek in 2024, one transparently as a declared candidate, the other all too cleverly pretending he is merely supportive of his party’s incumbent.

Newsom already crossed a line by meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping on the pretense that the two merely discussed business, but few are swallowing that explanation whole, detecting the California governor’s desire for the same type of photo-op as when he waltzed into the White House while Biden was on the road, the mouse indeed playing while the cat’s away. And the White House has registered no objection to Newsom’s showboating on the national and international stage.

Gavin Newsom: Too Clever by Half?

It was just a couple of weeks ago that gym-short-and-hoodie-clad Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) came out with a statement calling the bluff of the Californian who is as glib as he is handsome – with both in long supply. “There are two additional Democrats … running for president right now,” said Fetterman, “One is a congressman from Minnesota, the other one is the governor of California, but only one has the guts to announce it.”

Rep. Dean Phillips (D-MN) spent months trying to convince his party that Biden was too old to run again and would surely lose. When no one listened, he announced his own primary challenge, further magnifying an issue that threatens to effectively disqualify Biden from a second term. Does Newsom, in fact, have the guts to take the Fetterman challenge and primary an obviously beleaguered Biden, knowing he could instantly either energize or dispirit the Democratic base? Barring a rapid change of fortune, will DeSantis ultimately admit defeat after falling behind both Trump and the ascendant Nikki Haley, support the GOP nominee and set his sights on 2028?

One more compelling reason to watch the hour-long debate between DeSantis and Newsom centers around the question of why Biden was so effusive in his recent praise of the California governor – an odd strategy for a president on the ropes being upstaged constantly by the young leader with the movie star looks. In his laudatory speech about Newsom in San Francisco recently, Biden said the golden boy governor “could be anything he wants. He could have the job I’m looking for.” Could that be a hint, a suggestion, the precursor to Newsom announcing this evening that he is entering the race – while Biden finally gives in to the massive bed-wetting in his party and pulls out? Likely not, but the outside possibility of it happening might by itself make this debate must-see TV – if it wasn’t already.

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DeSantis Debates Newsom and the 2024 Needle Doesn’t Move

The big red state vs blue state showdown was entertaining, but it was merely a diversion.

by | Dec 1, 2023 | Articles, Opinion, Politics @ Liberty Nation News

The November 30 debate between two state governors, Democrat Gavin Newsom of California and Republican Ron DeSantis of Florida, was perhaps a perfect representation of the hopelessness of the current political and cultural landscape of America. If the purpose was to find any common ground, it was a failure. If the aim was to establish either participant as a serious presidential pick, it was perhaps an even greater waste of time. Ultimately, the event did little more than expose the ever-widening division that exists in society today.

Hosted by Fox News’ Sean Hannity, the debate descended quickly into a free-for-all, with each participant eager to get the most significant soundbite of the evening.

To his credit, DeSantis cited sources to support some of his claims that Florida was in better shape than California. Newsom did not, despite arguing precisely the opposite. In fact, the Golden State’s governor threw out some stunning statistics without any corroborating sources. Even in the face of official federal government numbers on COVID deaths, crime, taxes, and interstate immigration – all of which favored Florida – Newsom countered with numbers and claims he was either unwilling or unable to support with credible sources – or any sources at all, as it turned out.

Who’ll Be Number 47? Neither Newsom nor DeSantis

Perhaps the only thing Gov. Newsom got right during the debate was when he pointed out that neither he nor his Sunshine State counterpart would be their respective party’s 2024 presidential nominee. Though rumors swirl that Gavin Newsom might jump into the White House race at the last moment to elbow Joe Biden aside, the California governor gave off strong signals that it wasn’t going to happen. He even went as far as touting “Bidenomics” as a remarkable financial boom.

It is not unreasonable to say that, for both participants, this debate was little more than a publicity stunt. In Newsom’s case, it was a chance to pit his record as a chief executive against, arguably, one of the most celebrated Republican governors in the country. For those who were willing to assume everything he said during the debate was true – regardless of documented fact – Newsom came out the winner. 

DeSantis at least provided sources for his own claims and, ultimately, the numbers do not lie. Ironically, the numbers screened during the debate – almost all of which statistically favored Florida on every issue – were ignored by Newsom who, instead, cited numbers and percentages with no sources whatsoever. Imagine a debate on space travel between an astrophysicist and a Star Wars fan and one might comprehend how far apart the two contenders were.

No doubt Ron DeSantis thought this event could potentially supercharge his White House campaign. It might give him a boost, but it seems unlikely anything the Florida governor said was enough to erase the insurmountable lead the GOP frontrunner, Donald Trump, enjoys. What did Gavin Newsom hope to get out of it? That’s not easy to say. Perhaps he is maneuvering for a 2028 White House bid – or maybe he just needed an excuse to get out of California for a few days.

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