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Saturday, December 19, 2020

Will This Stolen Election Create a Third Party?

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Recently I've read about a potential conservative third party emerging from the Republican party, and there seems to be a lot of discussion among conservatives over this based on conversations I've had.  There are two articles I've posted today dealing with this that takes us into the emotions of such thinking, and the practical thinking that I believe will prevail.

First!  This piece by entitled, They Are Mad as Hell but Will They Take It Anymore?, with the sub-headline, "Has there ever been a more opportune time to create a new political party?" @ Liberty Nation, where she states:

Out of the ashes of an embittered, archaic, and dying Republican Party, Donald J. Trump rose to the occasion while descending on a golden escalator to put the GOP out of its self-inflicted misery. The Silent Majority was silent no more, and joining forces with an America-first candidate, 63 million energized, excited, and optimistic people swept the man and dozens of hangers-on into office.

Instead of embracing a win and a Republican mandate in both houses of Congress, petty arguments, backstabbing, distancing, and incredible disloyalty to the president, Republicans have done little to keep their party members happy. Rather, the green-eyed monster from losers long ago reared its ugly head in the trappings of Senators John McCain and Mitt Romney and their sycophants who followed along. For many, the fix was in – from the inside out — making the Republican Party no better than the Democrats of 2016.

She's suggesting that a "Trumplican Party", made up of America Firsters, blacks and Hispanics who've turned the corner because they could clearly see Trump did more for them in four years than did the Democrats in decades, and those she calls Trumplicans who believe in real justice.  Not a dual system we're clearly stuck with now where the elite get away with treason.  Along with those who support a strong economy, a strong military, and immigration control.  

She didn't mention less regulations, less spending, less taxes, etc, but those are the traditional conservative talking point for Republican party leaders to keep the rank and file in line while never delivering when they had the power, and this election has made it clear, they never intended to. 

That may be emotionally appealing, but is it a real potential?  Personally, I don't think the groups she's outlining are going to support that idea, and it's not going to happen. 

The second piece I posted today was from Brad Slager, who in his piece, The President’s Departure Means the Never-Trump Crowd Now Find Themselves as Outcasts observed: 

When former RNC chairman and current Never Trump minion Michael Steele came out last month to state they had plans for how to reconstitute the Republican Party his plea was met with little more than eye rolls from the GOP. When the pyromaniacs who burned down the barn come forward to state they will be there to help rebuild it the normal reaction is to chase them off the property with buckshot................

He went on to say: 

To go along with these figures acting like evicted tenants pledging not to send Christmas cards there is Bill Kristol, who has appeared like a doddering shopper at a mall who forgot where he parked the car. Kristol this week made the attempt to promote the concept of forming a third political party, and the result could not have been more dismal. His proposal was to come up with The Owl Party as a centrist alternative and he nearly broke his nose, stumbling so magnificently. Once he realized there has already been a satirical Owl Party - one that stood for Out With Logic - he wavered on his cause, and once he was met with complete apathy it was mere hours later when he had abandoned his plan entirely. 

While the two articles differ in that one wants real conservatives to form a third party, and Sager's piece observes a third party of Never Trumpers isn't in any way possible.  But the issue isn't about which group, it's about any group among the Republicans.   The fact is, it's my view there will be no viable third party by any dissatisfied Republicans, from any segment of the party.

There may be an effort to form a third party made up of disgusted Democrats, who are moderately (if there really is such a thing as a moderate Democrat) to the left, and disgusted Republicans who are fauxcons, versus real conservatives, but that won't float.  History and the cultures they're departing are against them and the American culture won't support them!  

Why?  Paraphrasing Harry Truman:  "If the public has a choice between a Republican and a Republican, they'll chose a Republican every time".  And it works in reverse. 

As Slager notes, and I think very credibly. about these Never Trumper fauxcons:

In other words these allegedly "True Conservatives" declare they will continue what they have been doing for years -- acting like Democrats and supporting left-wing agendas. They will do this all the while telling others on the Right how they are not truly conservative. As they wander off into the political wilderness these pariahs will not be missed by anyone in conservative circles.

It's clear that segment of the Republican party is toast.  They may as well become Democrats, except the Democrats don't want them!  Schadenfreude!

Well, what about a Trumplican party?  Teddy Roosevelt tried that with his Bull Moose party, and it failed, worse yet, it split the vote and Woodrow Wilson, known as America's first fascist president, was elected.  In America political parties are formed around ideas, not personalities.

There was talk about the Tea Party becoming a third party, and there was some effort there, but most of the Tea Party people were only interested in supporting the party that embraces conservative issues. Which of course left them no choice but the Republicans.  Only there was a problem with that! They learned the Republican leadership was great at the talking the talk, but was lousy at walking the talk.  

Their options? 

Form a third party or take over the Republican party.  They chose the latter, and that's what they've been doing, much to the dismay of the Mitch McConnell and John McCain crowd, with McCain calling them misfits.  

The fraud of this election, and the actions of the current Republican leadership, has outraged them and their take over is going to happen big time now.  In two years there will be another election for House and Senate members, and the landscape has changed politically, and socially.  

The take over started at the local level and in this election Republicans picked up 11 seats, and they're now in control of more state legislatures, which is critical, because they'll be in charge of redistricting their states, and especially in states where the census has given them more seats in the House.  The Republicans could "dominate the process".

If so, there will be a new Third Party! The new, improved, outraged and transformed Republican Party!  The Kraken has been awakened! 


Sunday, April 7, 2019

The Tea Party is back!

April 7, 2019 By Lloyd Marcus

President Trump has our economy booming. Unemployment claims are at an unprecedented 50-year-low. There are more jobs available than there are workers to fill them.

Yet every Democrat presidential candidate is on a mad dash to socialism. If a Democrat is elected president in 2020, we will be thrust back to the depressing days of Obama's failed economy: record-high numbers of Americans on food stamps, unemployment, and disability. Democrats are like drug-dealers seeking to insidiously addict Americans to government dependency solely to control their lives, behavior, and voting loyalty.

From the beginning of the Tea Party movement, I traveled the country on numerous national Tea Party bus tours, speaking and performing my song, "American Tea Party Anthem," at over 500 Tea Party rallies nationwide...............On April 15, Stop Socialism Choose Freedom Rallies are scheduled across America — 300 thus far, with more added daily.  Yes, the Tea Party is back.  Please join us.

Actually, the Tea Party never went away.  We matured, working behind the scenes to elect conservatives, becoming less visible.  I became chairman of the Conservative Campaign Committee, traveling the country, helping to elect conservatives in House and Senate races.............. Read more

Friday, December 11, 2015

What Did Ted Cruz And Marco Rubio Learn From George W. Bush?

A key argument is developing between Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and it raises the question: What did the GOP learn from George W. Bush?
 

An interesting and somewhat unexpected argument is beginning to take shape in the context of the 2016 Republican Presidential Primary between the two most prominent Tea Party Senators running for the nomination – Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. It is compelling because it demonstrates a real gap in terms of vision and priorities, but also because it speaks to very divergent views of the lessons of George W. Bush’s presidency, and how those lessons ought to be applied to the role of a future Commander in Chief.  It was technically Marco Rubio who fired the first shot – responding to Ted Cruz’s rising poll numbers with a series of ads slamming him for joining with the ACLU and others (er, supermajorities of others) to pass the USA Freedom Act, thereby weakening the NSA surveillance Rubio values so much and views as essential to protecting the homeland.........
 
When Cruz says Rubio and Clinton have “learned nothing”........Clinton, the obvious implication is that she has learned nothing from the fecklessness of President Obama’s lead from behind approach. But when he says Rubio and the “Washington neo-cons” have “advocated military adventurism” that has benefited “radical Islamic terrorists”, he is saying something different: he is accusing Rubio of not learning anything from the errors of the George W. Bush administration..........Of course, it’s no secret that Rubio was always miscast as a Tea Partier..........Rather than distance himself from George W. Bush’s approach to policy, Rubio has largely embraced it.........To Read More....

Sunday, December 22, 2013

If this the Establishment's counteroffensive, the Tea Party has little to worry about

By TIMOTHY P. CARNEY DECEMBER 19, 2013
The battle for the GOP will now be fought in 2014 House and Senate primaries, Tea Partiers and Establishment types agreeTea Partiers always have an uphill climb when challenging incumbents, but this year, the Establishment is targeting Tea Party incumbents and winning open seats, my AEI colleague Norm Ornstein said on public radio's "To The Point" yesterday.   Ornestein pointed to two examples: Alabama's 1st Congressional District where business-backed candidate Bradley Byrne won a special election against Dean Young. The problem with this example: Young got no backing from national Tea Party groups.
The incumbent the Establishment is targeting is Justin Amash. Here's what challenger Brian Ellis has to offer, as told by Maria Santos of the Weekly Standard:….To Read More…

Thursday, December 19, 2013

The Progressive Reality Is Here

December 18, 2013 by Bruce Thornton
The Republicans are feeling confident these days. The slow-motion debacle of Obamacare promises to keep that albatross around the necks of the Democrats at least through next year’s midterm elections. The IRS, NSA, and Benghazi scandals are still simmering, and any day new information may emerge that puts them back on the front page. Obama’s disapproval rating is at 53.4%, according to the RealClearPolitics average of 11 polls. The Republican Party’s approval numbers are still lower than Democrats’, but they are trending up while the Dems are moving down.
The recent budget deal passed in the House supposedly augurs well for the Republicans as well. Many see the bipartisan agreement to fund government spending for two years as a tactical victory that takes the bad public relations of a government shutdown off the table, thus keeping the focus on the Obamacare disaster. Growing more confident, the “establishment” Republicans are marginalizing the Tea-Party “extremists” who generate so much bad press for the GOP. Or as the Huffington Post gloated, House Speaker John Boehner “was at least declaring war on the well-funded agitators” who “jumped the shark” by opposing the deal…..To Read More……

Monday, September 23, 2013

GOP Establishment created its own crisis of authority

By Timothy P. Carney, September 20, 2013
If Tea Party Republicans are behaving like out-of-control children, some blame goes to the unreliable "adults" who spent the last 13 years frittering away their parental credibility.  "Those who are sympathetic to the Tea Party," my colleague Phil Klein wrote in last week's Washington Examiner, "are conflating tactical disagreements with ideological disagreements."  Klein is right. On the current budget debate, some conservative activists and journalists, and even Tea Party lawmakers, have set a litmus test: You either support their gambit to defund Obamacare or you're not a real conservative. First-term Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, put it bluntly on the Senate floor: "Defund it or own it. If you fund it, you're for it."……
Why do disagreements over tactics bring one's principles into doubt? Maybe the conservative bomb-throwers don't have as refined a sense of strategery as the party leadership does. But also, the grassroots simply don't trust the Establishment on tactics — because the Establishment has frittered away that trust.  The Bush era saw the GOP Establishment repeatedly saying “trust us,” and “just because we have different tactics doesn’t mean we don’t share your principles.” And often things turned out well for the Establishment, but not for the conservatives ……if some conservatives don’t want to do as they are told, it’s because in the past, the leadership had led the GOP astray…….To Read More….